Also, you'll see on Al's website that there's an earlier 2016 interview with VADM "Ted" Carter, the current Superintendent at the US Naval Academy. VADM Carter is one of the most accomplished Naval aviators in Navy history, with over 2000 carrier landings in his log book. Fascinating stories there, too, with a ton of great info on the Naval Academy, and his tour there as the "Supe". (Al replayed that "chat" on Friday, Sept 29th, 2017.)